This issue has gotten very emotionally loaded by now..
But Obama really should back off of this..
He has done a couple of good things in his presidency but so gravely mismanaged a lot of things.. blaming others afterwards and "seething" with anger and so on..
There is no reason to have any trust in his competence on this issue either.
The treatment of the nurse in NJ is of course horrendous… she should be given a luxury facility as a thank for her service for Africa and global health, but that is a seperate issue from how to protect the US from a deadly and potentially unpredictable plague.
And this is not every day stuff… and we’re also only talking about 30 – thirty – US health care workers in Africa at the moment..
Cuomo’s "erring on the side of caution" seems like a reasonable position for now..
Also as statements like "only direct contact with bodily fluids" are supplemented with "and perhaps contaminated objects we’re not sure"…
And.. these kind of issues should not be dictated and decided by medical experts. Informed yes, but decided no. No way.
The Obama administration has expressed deep concerns to the governors of New York and New Jersey and is consulting with them to modify their orders to quarantine medical volunteers returning from West Africa as President Obama seeks to quickly develop a new, nationwide policy for the workers, according to two senior administration officials.
One administration official said the federal government has been pressing the governors to back off their decisions, which quarantine all medical workers who had contact with Ebola patients. But another official said the administration has not specifically asked the governors to reverse their policies.
Back to more “local” news..
MSNBC’s Chuck Todd got too sloppy on Morning Joe last week and learns the hard way that his words will carry a bit different weight as MTP moderator..
Chuck Todd keeps trying to get out of the Kentucky Senate race, but the Kentucky Senate race keeps pulling him back in.
On Wednesday, one day after Todd expressed “heartburn” over his “sloppy” remarks, Democratic hopeful Alison Lundergan Grimes suggested that the “Meet the Press” host had bullied her when he criticized her refusal to disclose whom she voted for in 2008.
“I’m not going to be bullied by Mitch McConnell or Chuck Todd,” the Kentucky Democrat said during a news conference on Wednesday.
(Todd said) in Friday’s edition of “Morning Joe”: “I really think she disqualified herself,” he says. “I really do.”
It’s about time the health workers wake up too.. and realize how they are potentially bringing a deadly plague into the country..
On a personal level her reactions are very understandable.. but also very tone-deaf in the larger context of stopping this whole thing..
If it potentially rises from now 10.000 cases and reaches 1.4 million in Africa by the end of January, there will be a very different situation to handle….
A nurse who tested negative for the Ebola virus but remained under a 21-day quarantine in a Newark hospital, said on Saturday that she was angry and frustrated at the treatment she has recevied on her return to the United States from West Africa.
The nurse, Kaci Hickox, 33, cried as she told her mother in a Saturday morning telephone call that she was being held in a tent at University Hospital in Newark and had not been told when she could leave, only that she would have more blood tests on Monday.
“She’s lived in Burma, Sudan, Uganda and Nigeria, and she’s worked for Doctors Without Borders many times,” the mother, Karen Hickox, said in a telephone interview later Saturday from her home outside Dallas. “I think the frustration is that she went and did her good deed and her passion and her serving spirit, and she comes back to America and I just don’t feel they were very welcoming.”
Given the hopeless response in Texas and a general national mismanagement of public mass fear and psychology – this is a good and necessary move. If nothing else to display an ability to stop things.
Other and more practical things regarding the quarantine can be solved in the days and weeks to come..
Healthcare workers returning to New York or New Jersey after treating Ebola patients in West Africa will be placed under a mandatory quarantine, officials announced Friday, one day after a Doctors Without Borders doctor was diagnosed with the virus in New York City. Illinois announced a similar policy Saturday, meaning it will be enforced in states with three of the five airports through which passengers traveling from the Ebola-stricken West African countries must enter the United States.
N.J. Gov. Chris Christie and N.Y. Gov. Andrew Cuomo made the announcement as part of a broader procedural plan to help protect the densely packed, highly populated area from any further spread of the disease.
“Since taking office, I have erred on the side of caution when it comes to the safety and protection of New Yorkers, and the current situation regarding Ebola will be no different,” Gov. Cuomo said. “The steps New York and New Jersey are taking today will strengthen our safeguards to protect our residents against this disease and help ensure those that may be infected by Ebola are treated with the highest precautions.”
This is a no-brainer.. and how it should be done. Mexico protects its country and citizens. Finally people are taking this stuff seriously..
Hearing the President “hugging and kissing” health care workers with exposure to Ebola patients seems reckless and irresponsible….
The cruise ship carrying a Texas health-care worker who “may have” handled lab specimens from Dallas Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan is headed back to the United States after Mexican authorities failed to grant permission for the ship to dock off the coast of Cozumel, according to a Carnival spokeswoman.
The Carnival Magic had been waiting off the Mexican coast since Friday morning for its scheduled port visit. Mexican authorities still hadn’t given clearance by noon, so the ship continued to its home port of Galveston, Tex., where it was due back on Sunday, according to Carnival.
The collapse of the British Empire is coming back.. things were not done right back then.. but Turkey/The Ottoman Empire as the losing part in WW1 might have some extra emotional components in this issue..
And, the current developments in the region are not a fruitful approach to solving these problems..
GAZIANTEP, Turkey — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan took on the iconic Lawrence of Arabia Monday in a furious anti-Western diatribe. The Turkish president compared the outside meddling in the region now to the role the renowned British army officer played during the Arab Revolt against the Ottomans during World War I. And Western diplomats here say the tirade bears a rather striking resemblance to some of the propaganda that has come out of the so-called Islamic State, widely known by the acronym ISIS or ISIL. (..)
But on one very important point of history and geography it now appears there’s a serious convergence of views between ISIS and Erdoğan. In his speech Monday at a university in Istanbul, the Turkish president blasted the Sykes-Picot Agreement, a secret understanding (signed behind Lawrence’s back) that divided up the Middle East after World War I between British and French spheres of influence. That deal opened the way for a British vow to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine and led to borders drawn by the European powers that created modern Syrian and Iraq. Historian David Fromkin summed up the mess that resulted in the title of his book The Peace to End All Peace.
“Each conflict in this region has been designed a century ago,” said Erdoğan. “It is our duty to stop this.”
There seems to be a steady shift on this issue.. also in the western countries…
The settlement policies are not helpful for Bibi….
LONDON — Against a backdrop of growing impatience across Europe with Israeli policy, Britain’s Parliament overwhelmingly passed a nonbinding resolution Monday night to give diplomatic recognition to a Palestinian state. The vote was a symbolic but potent indication of how public opinion has shifted since the breakdown of American-sponsored peace negotiations and the conflict in Gaza this summer.
Though the outcome of the 274-to-12 parliamentary vote was not binding on the British government, the debate was the latest evidence of how support for Israeli policies, even among staunch allies of Israel, is giving way to more calibrated positions and in some cases frustrated expressions of opposition to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s stance toward the Palestinians. (..)
Richard Ottaway, a Conservative lawmaker and chairman of the House of Commons foreign affairs committee, said that he had “stood by Israel through thick and thin, through the good years and the bad,” but now realized “in truth, looking back over the past 20 years, that Israel has been slowly drifting away from world public opinion.”
“Under normal circumstances,” he said, “I would oppose the motion tonight; but such is my anger over Israel’s behavior in recent months that I will not oppose the motion. I have to say to the government of Israel that if they are losing people like me, they will be losing a lot of people.”
Maybe this is good news, or maybe it’s just talk and games..
But at some level.. or in some moments of clarity.. Putin has to realize that his dream of an economic “Eurasian” union can only be achieved by being economically attractive to the neighboring states – not through force or occupation..
And this year’s events are just hurting Russia.. both short and medium term…
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered thousands of troops stationed near the Ukrainian border to return to their bases, Russian media report.
Mr Putin’s spokesman said about 17,600 soldiers on training exercises in the Rostov region would be pulled back.
Russia has previously announced troop withdrawals that Nato and the US say were not actually carried out.
Russia has been accused of supplying troops and weapons to separatist rebels in east Ukraine – claims it denies.